Showing posts with label Crane Eater. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Crane Eater. Show all posts

Wednesday, November 14, 2012

The Battle for Truth Begins....In Court?

Yesterday I was notified that an ancestor stealer, the one who stole Crane Eater, is now threatening to take a lot of Cherokees to court. I really have no idea the reason, other than we won't allow them to spew their false ancestry all over the web without disputing it. They seem to be under the impression that since they managed to get themselves into a fake tribe, they can claim they are Indian. Sorry, but that group is known for allowing fakes into their ranks and we Cherokees aren't falling for it.

For those of you who might have forgotten the fiasco that ensued over Crane Eater because our focus has been on Elizabeth Warren, I thought I would repost a past blog (with a few modifications) to remind you of the determination of the ancestor stealer to cling to a fictitious story about Indian ancestry despite all the evidence saying this person's family was white. (Sounds a lot like Elizabeth Warren, doesn't it? For those readers who started following because of the Warren false claims, read on. You will see this phenomenon is nothing new.)

Because I have done such extensive research on the Cherokee man named Crane Eater, it is not uncommon for me to do a Google search on him periodically. I saw something in January 2012 on a genealogy forum that was incorrect and decided to respond to it. (And contrary to the lies posted by that hack website out of Massachusetts, I am not banned from posting there!) I think people have the right to get accurate information. Let's just say things got interesting after that! 

Like I have said so many times before, some people really don't care about the truth when it comes to Cherokee genealogy. They want to be Cherokee, so by gosh, they are going to be, whether they really are or not! And, the debate on the forum proved this point.

One message posted said,
"You're waging a losing battle. I'm going to continue my research; Nothing you say or do will stop my efforts or what I blog about. I've dug in, baby."

If that doesn't prove everything I have been saying all along in this Crane Eater saga, I don't know what does.

"You're waging a losing battle."
"Nothing you say...will stop my efforts or what I blog about."
"I've dug in, baby."

It is now perfectly clear, nothing, I mean, NOTHING, I say, no matter how accurate it is, no matter how much it is based on actual documentation, no matter how honest I am about it, NOTHING will stop this person from wrongly claiming Crane Eater as their ancestor. NOTHING. After all, this isn't a quest for truth, but instead, it is a "battle" and they've "dug in." Not only are such comments cocky and arrogant, they also show someone grossly underestimates the documentation I have.  Isn't that sad? I thought we were doing genealogy here.

Anyway, apparently I am now in battle...

Gee, an Anglo going to battle against an Indian. That's nothing new.

But, before this apparent battle begins, I would like to remind everyone about a bit of history. Remember a man named George Armstrong Custer? He, too, was arrogant and cocky. He, too, wanted to go to battle. And he, too, underestimated the Indians. Now you tell me..........how'd that work out for him?




Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.





copyright 2012, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Friday, July 27, 2012

An Interview with Jim Langford - Coosawattee Foundation

In January 2012, I had the pleasure of interviewing Jim Langford of the Coosawattee Foundation. He has extensive knowledge of the area of Redbud, Georgia and has also heard a lot of the legend and folklore of the area. At one time, the Coosawattee Foundation had it's office in the house that is known as "the Crane Eater house." Our interest in speaking with Mr. Langford was to learn a little more about the house and what investigation methods were used to determine if it was the home of the Cherokee and if so, was that Cherokee  named Crane Eater.


The questions we asked were - 

Is the cabin made of round logs or hewed logs? 
He didn't know. They have not looked in the walls of the house. From the porch, the boards are old and there were square nails used so they think their might be an Indian house inside it but they are not certain.



What is the measurement of the cabin? 

Unknown since they aren't absolutely certain there is an Indian house inside the larger house. The house fits the design of other houses built around "Indian houses" because of two equal rooms with a hall in the middle and double porches (one over the other.)



What's the earliest record of the community being called Crane Eater?  
Crane Eater purportedly lived there so he assumed since then.

Is there any record of when the larger house was built around the cabin? 
No.

How did Dr Worth conclude that if there is a cabin inside the house, that it was owned by Crane Eater and not some other Cherokee or even some later white settler? 
The boards and nails made them think it was Cherokee era. They used valuation, voting precincts and other Cherokee records to come to the conclusion it was Crane Eater who lived on that spot.

What was the chain of ownership of the house? 
Mr. Langford wasn't sure but said we could get that from the courthouse. He said there was a King family who lived there before Minnie Roe. His name is in the concrete of the Mill house floor. He was not sure Maurice Thompson's (The Witchery of Archery) family ever lived in the house because he had never heard that.

**Notes of interest - 
Mr. Langford said Dr. Worth determined Crane Eater made it to Indian Territory, therefore is NOT buried near the house despite local lore that says he is. A lot of people in the area were disappointed about that.
Without my even asking, Mr. Langford offered information that someone from the Keith family came around claiming their ancestor, Sarah, a white woman, was the wife of Crane Eater, and that she allowed to stay because she was white. Mr. Langford warned me that he didn't believe there was any validity to that story.

Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.




copyright 2012, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Friday, February 3, 2012

Dissecting a Family Myth - One Year Later

As many of my readers know, I have written a series of posts on the Cherokee man named Crane Eater in an effort to ensure the truth is known about him, as opposed to many lies, myths and rumors that are now posted all over the web. It has been a year since my first post on Crane Eater so today, I thought I would write about all the things the year has entailed.

When I originally looked at the information on Crane Eater, the question was, "Were Crane Eater and James Keith the same man?" Within two hours of reviewing the information I had available to me, my conclusion was no. Not only was that my conclusion, I felt very confident in that conclusion based on the documentation and evidence. A descendant of the Keith family seemed very appreciative of my conclusion and left a comment on my blog thanking me for it. I thought that would be the end of it. Unfortunately, it wasn't.

Almost immediately after thanking me, the same Keith descendant started defaming me in their blog. It was if I had become the devil incarnate and everything I did was pure evil, simply because their family was not Cherokee and I was the one who said it. The blogger started posting a variety of documents, twisting their meaning to try to prove me wrong. They even went so far as to post on a facebook page that they had a big plate of steaming crow for my friend, David Cornsilk, and me. The sad thing about it all is no matter what this person said, they would never be able to prove Crane Eater and James Keith were the same man because they weren't.

This quest for truth has led to some things I never could have predicted a year ago. Though being removed from the Geneabloggers blog roll due to supposedly not having content that will move the genealogical community forward and apparently having inappropriate posts; and being referred to as being in "The Battle of the Blogs" in the On the Trail of the Trail blog in a post titled "The Crane Eater Conflict" , many positives have come from this "battle." Recently, a presentation was made to the Tulsa Cherokee Community Organization on the topic of this situation with Crane Eater and James Keith, with the research from this blog being used as the example. Because of this controversy, people have started to notice how far a wannabe will go if someone challenges their claim to Cherokee ancestry. Cherokees have started to pay attention because they don't like it when someone steals their ancestors and claims them as their own. Some have even become proactive in speaking out against such claims. Also because of this controversy, I have been fortunate enough to have been put in contact with some of the top Cherokee researchers in the country. Their knowledge and background into Cherokee records and documentation is unbelievably extensive. If a Cherokee researcher has a question, these are the "go-to" people and I am truly blessed to be able to work with them.

Overall, despite the personal attacks and lies posted about both me and Crane Eater, it has been a great year. Many people, both Cherokee and non-Cherokee, have been educated about the serious issue of wannabes, fake genealogies and the attempts people will make to try to "prove" they are Cherokee.  Though at first, I thought it was a "two hour gig" and nothing more, it has turned into one of the greatest opportunities one could hope for when it comes to teaching about those who desperately want to be Cherokee, and therefore will do or say anything they can to "prove" it.

Now, after a year, I have done hundreds of hours of research on both Crane Eater and James Keith, assisted by some wonderful other researchers and genealogists. After these hundreds of hours of research, my conclusion remains the same as after the first two hours of research. James Keith and Crane Eater were NOT the same man. No amount of hoping, wishing or praying will ever make it so. And when this is all said and done, it won't be me or my friend who's...



Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.





copyright 2012, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Tuesday, January 17, 2012

You Can't Handle the Truth!

Truth is non-negotiable. Either something is true or it isn't. Yesterday, I was apparently "taken to task" over "truths." Apparently we all have our own truths. Whaaaaaaaaat? Back up there, buddy! We all have our own truths? Are you kidding me?

Fact is fact and fiction is fiction. In genealogy, we are supposed to be looking for facts, or I thought we were. But apparently not. Apparently it is okay for someone to claim any old thing they want about our Cherokee ancestors, with no real evidence or documentation to support what they say, and that is all okay. Pay attention here, folks. Watch what is going on........Did you see what I just said? It is okay for someone to write whatever the heck they want and try to pass it off as Cherokee genealogy and nobody has a problem with it. If a blog in the genealogical blogging community does this, IT IS OKAY! That blog will be promoted, tweeted, and shared all over the place, no questions asked. After all, we all have our own "truths."

But.......

What is not okay is for a Cherokee to take offense at that. What? Seriously it is not okay for a Cherokee to see it, point it out, and then say it was offensive. Don't believe me? Check out my recent interactions on Twitter. My tweet, "Promoting a blog that perpetuates myths about Cherokee ancestry is an insult to real Cherokee people," resulted in my being sent a nasty email and a later response on Twitter that included #bringit.

Are you kidding me? Bring it? Someone who is supposed to be a genealogist, seeking to get their certification, is going to tell me to "bring it" over this Crane Eater thing? Seriously, are you freaking kidding me? Crane Eater and James Keith were not the same man. The evidence and documentation clearly show it. This is not about a fight, a battle or personal attacks. It is about the truth, the real truth, and not some work of fiction being passed off as the truth.

Now if you want me to bring it, I can, but you better get ready because, to borrow some of your words to me, "I’m not a shrinking violet," and I'm "last person you want to #$%& off" when it comes to our Cherokee ancestors. You know there are some things that are very wrong here, yet rather than admit what you did might actually be offensive to Cherokees, you would rather attack me for saying it was offensive. That's fine. You made it perfectly clear where you stand on this issue. But, like it or not, Cherokees have the right to say all this wannabe hub-bub and the support and encouragement of it is offensive to us. That is our right and that is the truth. Oh, but I forgot, you can't handle the truth.





Sunday, January 15, 2012

Sentimental Sunday - Crane Eater: A Story of Mistaken Identity and the Quest for Truth

Who was Crane Eater and why does his life matter? 

Crane Eater was a full blood Cherokee and he was born in the old Cherokee Nation East. He served in the War of 1812 with a Cherokee regiment and did battle with Andrew Jackson against the Creeks. He was active in Cherokee politics and in 1835, he was living on the Coosawattee River in Georgia. He wasn't a rich man. Just a man of humble means living in his small home with 10 others in his full blood family.



Though he, along with nearly 16,000 others, signed a petition to remain in the east, his beloved homeland, he and the others were forced out; rounded up, arrested by the military and taken to the dreaded, horrific stockades where the Cherokees were held for months. He, like the other Cherokees, left on the now infamous Trail of Tears. He traveled through Tennessee, Kentucky, Illinois, and Missouri before finally reaching the Indian Territory. The weather and cold was nearly unbearable. The detachment he traveled with, just like those ahead of them and behind them, was forced to stop due to the frozen Ohio and Mississippi Rivers. People were suffering all around him. Everyone was sick. Many died.



Finally, in the early spring of 1839, he reached the Indian Territory. He settled on the Caney in Flint District with the surviving members of his family. Later, in 1842, he filed a claim against the United States government for the property he was forced to leave behind in the old nation. He was forced to abandon nearly everything he owned and never had a chance to retrieve it or sell it. Though under less than desirable circumstances, he did rebuild his life.



That life, the life of Crane Eater, matters because he is just one of many Cherokees from the old days whose lives are now being investigated. Sometimes their lives are studied by Cherokees but many times, their lives and history are studied by other people. Often those other people study our ancestors because they believe they, the other people, are Cherokee. Too many times, those other people are wrong. 


Today, in the year 2012, one hundred and seventy four years after the Trail of Tears, there are a lot of rumors about Crane Eater that are not true.  There is a white family who claims to have come from him. He did not know them and he never knew any of their people, yet they say he was the father of one of them. This is not true. He never knew the man they claim was his son. He was not married to the woman they claim was his wife. I imagine he would not like it that they try to give him children and a wife that were not his. I doubt he could ever understand why they do it. He had his own family. I believe he probably loved his family.  This is why the story of his life matters. 

Crane Eater was a full blood Cherokee man who had a family. For a white family to claim he was their ancestor and that his children were their ancestor's children is an outrage. By doing this, they are trying to erase the real Crane Eater and his family from history and replace them with James Keith, a white man, and his family. This is unacceptable and it is very disrespectful. Crane Eater deserves better than that. He stayed with his nation, through thick and thin, helping, as an average Cherokee citizen, to build it into what it is today. He never abandoned his nation or his people. He was one of those who signed the petition to try to keep their homeland. He was one those who was forcibly rounded up and removed. And he was one of those who survived to start over. It is important that people know the truth about Crane Eater and his life. If he is to be remembered, then he would want to be remembered for who he really was. To remember him any other way is a shame and dishonor to both him and the Cherokee people.

Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.



copyright 2012, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

She's dug in, baby! Let the Battle for Truth in Genealogy Begin!

Because I have done such extensive research on the Cherokee man named Crane Eater, it is not uncommon for me to do a Google search on him periodically. I saw something last weekend on a genealogy forum that was incorrect and decided to respond to it. I think people have the right to get accurate information. Let's just say things got interesting after that! 

Like I have said so many times before, some people really don't care about the truth when it comes to Cherokee genealogy. They want to be Cherokee, so by gosh, they are going to be, whether they really are or not! And, the debate on the forum proved this point.

One message posted said,
"You're waging a losing battle. I'm going to continue my research; Nothing you say or do will stop my efforts or what I blog about. I've dug in, baby."

If that doesn't prove everything I have been saying all along in this Crane Eater saga, I don't know what does.

"You're waging a losing battle."
"Nothing you say...will stop my efforts or what I blog about."
"I've dug in, baby."

It is now perfectly clear, nothing, I mean, NOTHING, I say, no matter how accurate it is, no matter how much it is based on actual documentation, no matter how honest I am about it, NOTHING will stop this person from wrongly claiming Crane Eater as their ancestor. NOTHING. After all, this isn't a quest for truth, but instead, it is a "battle" and they've "dug in." Not only are such comments cocky and arrogant, they also show someone grossly underestimates the documentation I have.  Isn't that sad? I thought we were doing genealogy here.

Anyway, apparently I am now in battle...

Gee, an Anglo going to battle against an Indian. That's nothing new.

But, before this apparent battle begins, I would like to remind everyone about a bit of history. Remember a man named George Armstrong Custer? He, too, was arrogant and cocky. He, too, wanted to go to battle. And he, too, underestimated the Indians. Now you tell me..........how'd that work out for him?


Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.





Photo - painting by Richard Lorenz "The Last Glow Of A Passing Nation"

copyright 2012, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Tuesday, November 8, 2011

From My Inbox

This is an excerpt from a message that arrived in my inbox yesterday.

"I enjoy and learn from your blog and respect your high standards for genealogy research. However, I have not enjoyed your forays into the unpleasant Cherokee election and beating up on the misguided person who wants James Keith to be Crane Eater."

I think we have a few important points made here. The first, and most important, falls in the area of my audience. I primarily write for the Cherokee people. Though the election was a nightmare and dragged out entirely too long, it was something the Cherokee people were extremely interested in reading about. They wanted to know what was going on each step of the way. There was a lot of confusion and people needed information. To my non-Cherokee readers, thank you for bearing with us during the difficult and stressful time and allowing me to use the blog as a place to share that needed information.

Another important point made is about the "misguided person who wants James Keith to be Crane Eater." Not only does that show everyone except this "misguided" person understands that James Keith is NOT Crane Eater, it also shows how tired one can grow of wannabeism and how serious of an issue it truly is.

Yes, we all know James Keith was not Crane Eater. WE ALL KNOW THIS! But guess what? The descendant of this man refuses to accept it. I see it. You see it. We ALL see it. Unfortunately, she refuses to accept it. This situation has been a text book example of what a wannabe is and how they behave when we, Cherokees, refuse to allow them to steal our identity and attempt to re-write our history. Not only do they continue to cling to their fabricated family history, they try to discredit us and do everything in their power to make us look like the bad guy in the situation. It is rare that such an opportunity would arise where I can show my non-Cherokee readers what we Cherokees go through every single day. Yes! Every single day, there is someone, somewhere who will tell us they are Cherokee, just like us. The magnitude of this culture and identity theft is enormous and it is never ending.

Because it is never ending, I think it is important to capitalize on this opportunity with Crane Eater to show how a fake can become so obsessed with being Cherokee (and in this case, proving Cherokees wrong) that they refuse to see the truth, no matter who shows it to them and no matter how many different ways it is shown to them. When readers start to email me that they are growing tired of it, then I know I have accomplished my goal -- to show non-Cherokees how tiresome this wannabe thing gets for us. Can you now see how a "misguided" person won't give up the claim of being Cherokee, even when they aren't? Can you see how they lie and attack and try to discredit us? This is EXACTLY what wannabes do when they are not allowed to continue with their fake claims. This is EXACTLY what wannabes do when REAL Cherokees say, "No more."

This blogger has tried to discredit me, my friends and anyone else that speaks out against her claims. Sad, but typical wannabe behavior. This blogger has numerous comments on her blog that support her and post nasty things about me and other Cherokees, but most are made by "anonymous." To be honest, most of us believe she is leaving comments for herself, since anyone with any real knowledge of genealogy would not support what she what she writes in her blog. I mean, think about it. An anonymous comment means nothing. Unless a person is willing to sign their real name to it, there is no substance to it. Just one of the reasons I have stopped allowing anonymous comments on this blog. If you have something to say, say it, but at least have the backbone to also sign your name to it. 

So yes, dear readers, I understand people are sick of reading, hearing, learning about Crane Eater. I get it. I really do. But it is important to see, to understand, this problem the Cherokee people have with fakes who desperately want to be one of us. Even when there is no real proof, they will often create something to show what they want. It is absurd. Our history is our history and no one has the right to try to re-write it just so they can be a part of it. Either you are or you aren't. It is that simple. Yes, this misguided person wants her ancestor, James Keith, to be the Cherokee man, Crane Eater, but he isn't. I see it. You see it. Everyone sees it, except her. Do you think she will ever accept the truth? Hard to say. I guess it will come down to the difference between a person searching for their true history and a wannabe. Does she want to know the truth, no matter what it is, or does she wannabe a Cherokee? You tell me.

Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.

The Granddaughter



copyright 2011, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Sunday, September 18, 2011

FOUND! Last Known Picture of James Keith! (A Little Cherokee Humor!)

What a great find! This is the last known picture of James Keith, a common genealogical topic in this blog.


Thought I would share a little Cherokee humor for the day. Love it! Don't you? Of course, only Cherokees will think it is funny, but oh well.

Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.

The Granddaughter

copyright 2011, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Friday, August 26, 2011

Let Crane Eater Rest In Peace

"I'm amazed that this is still going on. Why would anyone care about someone else's family to this degree?"

That is a question left in a comment on another blog where the blogger seems more interested in proving me wrong than in proving her real family history. Apparently what the blog commenter fails to realize is I don't care about someone else's family. I really don't. The person I care about is a Cherokee named Crane Eater.

I know, I know, the blogger insists her ancestor, James Keith, and the Cherokee man named Crane Eater are the same man. But guess what. She is wrong.

In her blog post, "Thriller Thursday: More Coincidence? Nahhhhhhh," she says,
She is talking about a claim the Cherokee man, Crane Eater, made in 1842, for loss of property that occurred when the soldiers rounded up the Cherokees and forced their removal from Georgia. Was Crane Eater alive in 1842? Yes. That is obvious because he filed a claim. But does that mean James Keith didn't die in 1839 as "previously thought"? No.

This is where sources and documentation come in handy. You see, James Keith's widow, Sarah, filed a widow's pension application for his service in the War of 1812. If she was a widow, guess what she would have to list in that application -- the date of death of her husband.


Looky there, boys and girls! Death of soldier - Jan. 29, 1839, Cass Co, Ga. And this isn't the only place in the application that date of death is listed. Every time Sarah reported her husband's, James Keith's, date of death, it was January 29, 1839. So can anyone tell me how a man who died in 1839 is living in Indian Territory and filing a claim in 1842? I think you can see my point. This blogger's claim that James Keith and Crane Eater were the same man cannot be true.The reason James Keith is absent from the US and Georgia state census records is because he was dead. He was not imprisoned. He was not listed on Cherokee rolls in the west. He was DEAD.

I could go on and on with all the contradictions in everything posted by the blogger that supposedly shows these two were the same man, but there is no point. James Keith died in Georgia in 1839 and Crane Eater was alive in Indian Territory in 1842. End of story. End of myth. End of claim.

Like I said, I don't care about someone else's family, but I do care about Crane Eater and his memory. He and his memory belong to the people of the Cherokee Nation. He is one of us and no one should try to lay claim to our people, our ancestors, unless their claim is based in truth. It is unconscionable that people think they have the right to steal one of our ancestors and try to re-write the history of that person to fit the story they want to tell. Our ancestors deserve better than that. They deserve their stories to be told as they were.

Crane Eater was a full blood Cherokee who lived on the Coosawatie River before he was arrested by soldiers and forcibly removed with the rest of the Cherokees. He was a survivor of the horrific Trail of Tears and his memory should be honored with truth, not mythology. Now that we know the truth, hopefully we can move on from this nonsense and finally let Crane Eater rest in peace.

Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.

The Granddaughter

copyright 2011, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Tuesday, February 15, 2011

When Wannabes Attack (Again)

"I never did give them hell. I just told the truth, and they thought it was hell." - Harry S Truman

Some of you may be aware that I have been the victim of a recent smear campaign by another blogger. I have tried to ignore this but the manipulation of my writings and the outright lies told about me are simply unacceptable. Though I believe sometimes it is best to just ignore people who do these types of things, I also believe we have a right to stand up for ourselves when someone is not being completely honest about us.

This all started over a request for help with Cherokee genealogy. I was simply trying to help someone I thought wanted to learn more, but apparently that was not the case. After one line in their ancestry was determined not to be Cherokee, they asked for another line to be reviewed, and then this led to another. I received 60 personal emails from this person in 6 days. On February 7, I received 22. I did say I would be willing to help this person in anyway I could, but such a large number of emails in one day was a little over the top. I might not have been upset had this person accepted my findings, but there was a constant rehashing of the same thing, over and over.

When my conclusions stayed the same, I was suddenly portrayed as an "attacker" and many of my private communications became public and were used out of context in an effort to misrepresent what I had actually said. I believe this person was intentionally making an effort to harm my reputation and because they have refused to write an apology or retraction of their post, I feel I am left with no choice but to address the issue here. This is a very long post and it is full of actual copies of screen prints, emails, and other communications. (All names have been blacked out or removed because I will not post the real names of anyone on the internet without their permission.) I apologized in advance, but because I always believe in providing documentation for what I present as fact, I feel the need to do it now, just like I would in any of my other posts.

In the blog, The Mashburn Collection, I was portrayed in a negative light in more than one blog post, but the one that is the most bothersome is titled, "Where's the Rain Dance When Things Need to Be Cooled." We are all free thinkers and I am not going to try to tell you what to believe or not to believe in this situation. You are free to read the communications and decide for yourself.

Inaccuracy #1 -
This person was never referred to me, nor I her. She had contacted my very good friend, David Cornsilk, who had more pressing things to work on, so he then asked me if I would look something up for him. She never knew I was the person working on this until AFTER I emailed her.


I love Cherokee research, so of course I was happy to look up this man. After doing my review of the Miller application, I thought I would do a quick Google search because you never know what you might find. That is when I found the blog, The Mashburn Collection, and saw the post about William Loranzo Dow Keith's Miller application posted there. I left a quick comment and went about my research.
I sent David what I found and he later told me the woman the research was for was happy to have the accurate information and she probably would not be one of those people who keep perpetuating family myths. Later, I stopped back by to read the blog again and see if a reply had been posted to my comment and I saw the page had been updated and then I realized my research had been for the person who wrote the blog. Excited that she seemed to be a genealogist only interested in the truth and not myth, I sent her a message through her "Contact Me" section.

She soon replied with the following message.


We continued to exchange emails and that is how this nightmare of an experience started for me.

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Inaccuracy #2 -
This is absolutely NOT true. The very night I started the research, I finished it, and I posted my findings to my blog. I never notified her of my findings because my research was not for her, but my own work that had started from a request for my friend. This was not paid research and I had no obligation to tell her anything about it, but I did thinking it might be helpful to her. Though her writing makes it look like I was specifically doing research for her and she was not aware I would be posting my findings to my blog, I assure you, she was well aware that I would be posting my research. As shown in the emails below, she knew about it BEFORE I published it.

Her response to this message follows -

When I finished the post, I notified her with a link. I even pointed out there was something a bit upsetting in what I found.

She responded with -

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Inaccuracy #3 -
This seems rather harmless, unless you click on the link. There you will find this

I have NO idea where a comment like this would come from, but I NEVER said any thing even remotely close to this. I am appalled someone would suggest I would want them to cut their fingers off with a chainsaw and worse! It is absolutely uncalled for to make such accusations about me.

Notice on this page, though, these additional comments are found that seem very contradictory to some comments found in the post that is most bothersome.

*****
Inaccuracy #4 -
I have no idea why I am accused of being "angrier". As you can see in the emails below, I was not angry, but instead just answered a question she had about the work in question.





Once again, nothing angry about it. I just answered a question.

*****
Inaccuracy #5 -
Absolutely NOT true. My communication with the tree owner -

And, per the message below, you can see my comment was misrepresented by only using a portion of it instead of it's entirety.

I never mentioned the name of the person attacking me until the other person mentioned it first. This was in reference to this typewritten paper. It is not an official document and certainly not a primary source. See paragraph three for the information I sent a correction about.

Even in this email to me, she says this is "Obviously, it is in error." (Note she also asks me to do MORE research for her.)


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Inaccuracy #6 -

Have you noticed a pattern here? This woman gets a lot of angry emails, doesn't she? First, when she posted about Crane Eater, she tells me she received a lot of angry emails. I even told her I was sorry that happened to her. Now, she is claiming to have gotten angry emails from me. I would like to see these angry emails she was fielding for days.

Her email to me - As you can see, she is a little "testy" here. And she says, "Our history, even though you object to it, is just that...our history and heritage. Documents we have are part of that heritage. They might have incorrect information, but it doesn't make them any less valuable. It's our responsibility to report the history, not try to change it." (Uh, no comment.)


My reply - as you can see, is not just an angry email, but a response to a message she sent me but didn't let you know about. She is accusing me of doing things I did not do and then suggests I be kinder and gentler. Excuse me?

My comments about inaccurate information are in response to her stating, "Documents we have are part of that heritage. They might have incorrect information, but it doesn't make them any less valuable."


Her family labeled by Guion Miller in a group as filing fraudulent applications was the Hillhouse family. Her Becks tie in with them and they were grouped together and rejected.

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Inaccuracy #7 -

She did not simply say, "Testy are we?" but -

And my response, is included in full in here. Notice she only used the part that served her purpose of making me "look angry."

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Inaccuracy #8 -
No, this was not what she did. She sent this email and then blocked me so I could not respond to it.


(Pay close attention to that message. Truly, every wannabe I have ever dealt with says something nearly exactly like that right before they stop communication.)

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Inaccuracy #9 -
I believe this is what she is referring to as "another angry post". Angry, no. Disappointed? Yes. Both David C. and I thought this person was not going to fall into the wannabe trap, but unfortunately we were wrong. I guess providing more information that her family was not Cherokee was viewed by her as "angry."

And the post on my blog that she quoted here actually had nothing to do with her. I have talked to my friends about this for a long time and over a year ago, I mentioned the steps a wannabe goes through to another wannabe -

I write about wannabes all the time. If I don't say the word "wannabe" at least once a day, anyone who knows me would think I was sick. Search my blog and see how many times the word "wannabe" comes up. It is a topic I write on a lot. Honestly, do people believe I have nothing better to do than sit around and write about them all day?

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In closing she adds the following comments -

Uh, yeah, whatever. I think the post she wrote shows she obviously has an agenda or she would not be repeatedly quoting me out of context and fabricating things that never happened. There are more emails. Like I said, she sent me 60 in 6 days. It would have been impossible to post them all here, but I did want to defend myself against her most harsh accusations. Nothing I have done is frightening, but her post about me is obviously lashing out. For what other reason would she post such misleading comments?

And, maybe some people see using the word "wannabe" as name calling. If they do, so be it. But you know what? If the shoe fits............


This comment has absolutely nothing to do with anything that was discussed in her blog post. Having a step son who gets Indian blood through his biological mother has absolutely nothing to do with her or her ancestry.

Talking about uncalled for comments. This is about one of the most insulting and stereotypical sentences I have seen in a long time. It absolutely has NO place in a discussion about Indians.

Once again, I am sorry this post is so long, but I think it is important for my readers to see the actual emails and other communications in this situation so they can see how wannabes attack real Indians when they don't get their way. It is quite shocking and unbelievable, isn't it?

And, the blogger who is attacking me just doesn't get it. She thinks I am upset because of what her ancestors did to mine a long time ago, when instead, this is really about what she is doing to me now. And isn't it ironic that she says she wants to be a better ancestor to her descendants than her ancestors were to her, yet she is doing the very same thing they did...

Honestly, after everything else she has done to me, I have to say it again. Why doesn't she just spit in my face?

Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.

CC
The Granddaughter

Update - The blogger who has launched this attack repeatedly changes her blog and all the posts. The above post I refer to has been changed numerous times. I did have the sense to make screen prints showing it as it stood at the time this blog post was published. Should anyone doubt what is stated above, feel free to contact me for copies of her original blog post.

Originally posted 15 Feb 2011.

Also see On the Trail of the Trail

And we think this isn't a Wannabe attacking me? What self respecting, person seeking the truth would allow such a comment to be posted to their blog? It is obviously lies and something written by a mentally ill person, but that wannabe has such anger against me for telling the truth, she wants to try to make me look bad. Classy, isn't it? But, it does make for a good example of how wannabes attack.

copyright 2011, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB