Showing posts with label Keith. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Keith. Show all posts

Sunday, January 15, 2012

Sentimental Sunday - Crane Eater: A Story of Mistaken Identity and the Quest for Truth

Who was Crane Eater and why does his life matter? 

Crane Eater was a full blood Cherokee and he was born in the old Cherokee Nation East. He served in the War of 1812 with a Cherokee regiment and did battle with Andrew Jackson against the Creeks. He was active in Cherokee politics and in 1835, he was living on the Coosawattee River in Georgia. He wasn't a rich man. Just a man of humble means living in his small home with 10 others in his full blood family.



Though he, along with nearly 16,000 others, signed a petition to remain in the east, his beloved homeland, he and the others were forced out; rounded up, arrested by the military and taken to the dreaded, horrific stockades where the Cherokees were held for months. He, like the other Cherokees, left on the now infamous Trail of Tears. He traveled through Tennessee, Kentucky, Illinois, and Missouri before finally reaching the Indian Territory. The weather and cold was nearly unbearable. The detachment he traveled with, just like those ahead of them and behind them, was forced to stop due to the frozen Ohio and Mississippi Rivers. People were suffering all around him. Everyone was sick. Many died.



Finally, in the early spring of 1839, he reached the Indian Territory. He settled on the Caney in Flint District with the surviving members of his family. Later, in 1842, he filed a claim against the United States government for the property he was forced to leave behind in the old nation. He was forced to abandon nearly everything he owned and never had a chance to retrieve it or sell it. Though under less than desirable circumstances, he did rebuild his life.



That life, the life of Crane Eater, matters because he is just one of many Cherokees from the old days whose lives are now being investigated. Sometimes their lives are studied by Cherokees but many times, their lives and history are studied by other people. Often those other people study our ancestors because they believe they, the other people, are Cherokee. Too many times, those other people are wrong. 


Today, in the year 2012, one hundred and seventy four years after the Trail of Tears, there are a lot of rumors about Crane Eater that are not true.  There is a white family who claims to have come from him. He did not know them and he never knew any of their people, yet they say he was the father of one of them. This is not true. He never knew the man they claim was his son. He was not married to the woman they claim was his wife. I imagine he would not like it that they try to give him children and a wife that were not his. I doubt he could ever understand why they do it. He had his own family. I believe he probably loved his family.  This is why the story of his life matters. 

Crane Eater was a full blood Cherokee man who had a family. For a white family to claim he was their ancestor and that his children were their ancestor's children is an outrage. By doing this, they are trying to erase the real Crane Eater and his family from history and replace them with James Keith, a white man, and his family. This is unacceptable and it is very disrespectful. Crane Eater deserves better than that. He stayed with his nation, through thick and thin, helping, as an average Cherokee citizen, to build it into what it is today. He never abandoned his nation or his people. He was one of those who signed the petition to try to keep their homeland. He was one those who was forcibly rounded up and removed. And he was one of those who survived to start over. It is important that people know the truth about Crane Eater and his life. If he is to be remembered, then he would want to be remembered for who he really was. To remember him any other way is a shame and dishonor to both him and the Cherokee people.

Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.



copyright 2012, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Saturday, January 7, 2012

This Is How We Do It! (Cherokee Wannabe Genealogy)

First, some music to get you in the mood to do some Cherokee Wannabe Genealogy!


Whew! Got so busy shaking my hind-end that I almost forgot what I was writing about today. As I wipe the sweat from my brow, I'll tell you how to do wannabe genealogy! 

Step 1 - Grab a real name from your real family tree. 
---For our example, we will use a white family tree and we will use the name John Keith.

Step 2 - Figure out some information on said real person from your family tree. (Don't worry about learning very much. You are just going to swap him out in a bit anyway.)
---White John Keith was the son of Cornelius Keith and Mary LaFoone.

Step 3 - Find a Cherokee who has the same name as your said ancestor. 
---For our example, we will use a Cherokee John Keath/Keith.

Step 4 -Learn a little about the real Cherokee. 
(Don't worry about learning too much about the Cherokee because all you need is the name and one or two details about him to make it look good. You are going to change everything else. After all, you have to make your family fit in his tree 'cause you wannabe a Cherokee!)
---John Keath/Keith was the father of a woman named Betsy. Betsy married Caleb Starr. And they were the parents of a James Starr. (Ok, that is enough to make it look good. I think we can fool them now!)

Step 5 - Mix and match the information for both people.
Hmmm......let's see, we will say this, "James Starr was the son of Caleb Starr and Betsy Keith. Betsy was the daughter of John Keith and Polly A-S-DU-I-S-DI. This John was the son of Cornelius Keith and Mary LaFoone."

Step 6 - Now build a good story around it connecting the person from your family tree to your ancestor. 
---"James Starr said his mother was a full blood, so that means both her parents were full bloods. Since John was her father, that means he was a full blood, therefore, his parents were full bloods. This John Keith was the nephew of my ancestor, Samuel or Lemuel or whatever the heck we are calling him today, so since John was a full blood Cherokee, that means my ancestor was at least part Indian!"

Step 7 - Step back and revel in your success at making yourself a Cherokee. 
(Boy, that is some slick stuff. You'll probably get away with it unless that "bee", Polly's Granddaughter, gets written to by an enraged reader asking her to explain how you managed to steal their ancestor.)

Step 8 - Have your story debunked.
(Crap! Someone emailed her!)

Yes, someone emailed me. I would post their message here, but because of the curse words in the message, it is probably best I don't. We try to keep this family friendly! :) Anyway...

It doesn't take much to debunk this one. John Keith, the son of Cornelius Keith and Mary LaFoone, was the husband of a woman named Jane or Mary Jane Mackey. Their family is pretty well documented and he had no daughter named Betsy. He is found living with his daughter, Mary E. Keith, and her husband Noble Glenn, in Eastern Division, Pickens, South Carolina in 1850. He died in South Carolina in 1853 and is buried the Oolenoy Baptist Church Cemetery in Pumpkintown, Pickens County, South Carolina. The family is repeatedly found in United States records and always listed as white.

The Cherokee John Keith, son of Du-dee-guah-na-guh and Too-nah-ye, was living in Cherokee Nation, Indian Territory in 1851 with his wife and younger children. (Betsy already had her own household.) His descendants all testified he was born east of the Mississippi River. There is a John Keith listed as living in Georgia on the 1835 census of the Cherokee Nation. The family is repeatedly found in records of the Cherokees -- 1880 and 1890 censuses, service with the Indian Home Guard (side note - John's son, George was in the same company as my 4x great grandpa, Mike Carey), etc...

So what we actually have is a white John Keith who lived and died in South Carolina and a Cherokee John Keith who lived in the old Cherokee Nation and then removed to Indian Territory on the Trail of Tears in 1838. They clearly were not the same man.

To my enraged reader, it will be okay. The truth always prevails, so I guess we should be singing something about debunking myths, huh? Come on, sing it with me.....this is how we do it...........


Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.





copyright 2012, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

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Tuesday, November 8, 2011

From My Inbox

This is an excerpt from a message that arrived in my inbox yesterday.

"I enjoy and learn from your blog and respect your high standards for genealogy research. However, I have not enjoyed your forays into the unpleasant Cherokee election and beating up on the misguided person who wants James Keith to be Crane Eater."

I think we have a few important points made here. The first, and most important, falls in the area of my audience. I primarily write for the Cherokee people. Though the election was a nightmare and dragged out entirely too long, it was something the Cherokee people were extremely interested in reading about. They wanted to know what was going on each step of the way. There was a lot of confusion and people needed information. To my non-Cherokee readers, thank you for bearing with us during the difficult and stressful time and allowing me to use the blog as a place to share that needed information.

Another important point made is about the "misguided person who wants James Keith to be Crane Eater." Not only does that show everyone except this "misguided" person understands that James Keith is NOT Crane Eater, it also shows how tired one can grow of wannabeism and how serious of an issue it truly is.

Yes, we all know James Keith was not Crane Eater. WE ALL KNOW THIS! But guess what? The descendant of this man refuses to accept it. I see it. You see it. We ALL see it. Unfortunately, she refuses to accept it. This situation has been a text book example of what a wannabe is and how they behave when we, Cherokees, refuse to allow them to steal our identity and attempt to re-write our history. Not only do they continue to cling to their fabricated family history, they try to discredit us and do everything in their power to make us look like the bad guy in the situation. It is rare that such an opportunity would arise where I can show my non-Cherokee readers what we Cherokees go through every single day. Yes! Every single day, there is someone, somewhere who will tell us they are Cherokee, just like us. The magnitude of this culture and identity theft is enormous and it is never ending.

Because it is never ending, I think it is important to capitalize on this opportunity with Crane Eater to show how a fake can become so obsessed with being Cherokee (and in this case, proving Cherokees wrong) that they refuse to see the truth, no matter who shows it to them and no matter how many different ways it is shown to them. When readers start to email me that they are growing tired of it, then I know I have accomplished my goal -- to show non-Cherokees how tiresome this wannabe thing gets for us. Can you now see how a "misguided" person won't give up the claim of being Cherokee, even when they aren't? Can you see how they lie and attack and try to discredit us? This is EXACTLY what wannabes do when they are not allowed to continue with their fake claims. This is EXACTLY what wannabes do when REAL Cherokees say, "No more."

This blogger has tried to discredit me, my friends and anyone else that speaks out against her claims. Sad, but typical wannabe behavior. This blogger has numerous comments on her blog that support her and post nasty things about me and other Cherokees, but most are made by "anonymous." To be honest, most of us believe she is leaving comments for herself, since anyone with any real knowledge of genealogy would not support what she what she writes in her blog. I mean, think about it. An anonymous comment means nothing. Unless a person is willing to sign their real name to it, there is no substance to it. Just one of the reasons I have stopped allowing anonymous comments on this blog. If you have something to say, say it, but at least have the backbone to also sign your name to it. 

So yes, dear readers, I understand people are sick of reading, hearing, learning about Crane Eater. I get it. I really do. But it is important to see, to understand, this problem the Cherokee people have with fakes who desperately want to be one of us. Even when there is no real proof, they will often create something to show what they want. It is absurd. Our history is our history and no one has the right to try to re-write it just so they can be a part of it. Either you are or you aren't. It is that simple. Yes, this misguided person wants her ancestor, James Keith, to be the Cherokee man, Crane Eater, but he isn't. I see it. You see it. Everyone sees it, except her. Do you think she will ever accept the truth? Hard to say. I guess it will come down to the difference between a person searching for their true history and a wannabe. Does she want to know the truth, no matter what it is, or does she wannabe a Cherokee? You tell me.

Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.

The Granddaughter



copyright 2011, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Sunday, September 18, 2011

FOUND! Last Known Picture of James Keith! (A Little Cherokee Humor!)

What a great find! This is the last known picture of James Keith, a common genealogical topic in this blog.


Thought I would share a little Cherokee humor for the day. Love it! Don't you? Of course, only Cherokees will think it is funny, but oh well.

Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.

The Granddaughter

copyright 2011, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Friday, August 26, 2011

Let Crane Eater Rest In Peace

"I'm amazed that this is still going on. Why would anyone care about someone else's family to this degree?"

That is a question left in a comment on another blog where the blogger seems more interested in proving me wrong than in proving her real family history. Apparently what the blog commenter fails to realize is I don't care about someone else's family. I really don't. The person I care about is a Cherokee named Crane Eater.

I know, I know, the blogger insists her ancestor, James Keith, and the Cherokee man named Crane Eater are the same man. But guess what. She is wrong.

In her blog post, "Thriller Thursday: More Coincidence? Nahhhhhhh," she says,
She is talking about a claim the Cherokee man, Crane Eater, made in 1842, for loss of property that occurred when the soldiers rounded up the Cherokees and forced their removal from Georgia. Was Crane Eater alive in 1842? Yes. That is obvious because he filed a claim. But does that mean James Keith didn't die in 1839 as "previously thought"? No.

This is where sources and documentation come in handy. You see, James Keith's widow, Sarah, filed a widow's pension application for his service in the War of 1812. If she was a widow, guess what she would have to list in that application -- the date of death of her husband.


Looky there, boys and girls! Death of soldier - Jan. 29, 1839, Cass Co, Ga. And this isn't the only place in the application that date of death is listed. Every time Sarah reported her husband's, James Keith's, date of death, it was January 29, 1839. So can anyone tell me how a man who died in 1839 is living in Indian Territory and filing a claim in 1842? I think you can see my point. This blogger's claim that James Keith and Crane Eater were the same man cannot be true.The reason James Keith is absent from the US and Georgia state census records is because he was dead. He was not imprisoned. He was not listed on Cherokee rolls in the west. He was DEAD.

I could go on and on with all the contradictions in everything posted by the blogger that supposedly shows these two were the same man, but there is no point. James Keith died in Georgia in 1839 and Crane Eater was alive in Indian Territory in 1842. End of story. End of myth. End of claim.

Like I said, I don't care about someone else's family, but I do care about Crane Eater and his memory. He and his memory belong to the people of the Cherokee Nation. He is one of us and no one should try to lay claim to our people, our ancestors, unless their claim is based in truth. It is unconscionable that people think they have the right to steal one of our ancestors and try to re-write the history of that person to fit the story they want to tell. Our ancestors deserve better than that. They deserve their stories to be told as they were.

Crane Eater was a full blood Cherokee who lived on the Coosawatie River before he was arrested by soldiers and forcibly removed with the rest of the Cherokees. He was a survivor of the horrific Trail of Tears and his memory should be honored with truth, not mythology. Now that we know the truth, hopefully we can move on from this nonsense and finally let Crane Eater rest in peace.

Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.

The Granddaughter

copyright 2011, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Friday, May 20, 2011

Grasping At Straws

Let us take things as we find them: let us not attempt to distort them into what they are not. We cannot make facts. All our wishing cannot change them.  - John Henry Cardinal Newman
copyright 2011, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Friday, April 1, 2011

Dr. John Worth - We Are Still Waiting - What Were Your Sources?

It has been quite some time now since the Crane Eater fiasco yet I have not heard back from John E. Worth, The Coosawattee Foundation. Since it has been publicly pointed out that "a representative of the Foundation and a noted archaeologist says the relationship (between Crane Eater and the Keith family) is real. The Cherokee researcher says it was not", I contacted Dr. Worth for more information on February 10, 2011.

Hi,
I have decided to contact you personally since this claim of Cherokee ancestry by the Keith family seems to not fit the evidence my fellow Cherokee historian and genealogist, David Cornsilk, and I have uncovered. XXXXX, a researcher of the Keith family, asked David to look at something for her and he asked me to do some research since he had other more pressing issues. XXXXX is basing her claim on something you wrote.

What we found was first, the Guion Miller application filed by William Loranzo Dow Keith was rejected. That is usually a good sign the family could provide no evidence they actually descended from the person they claimed to descend from. Lawyers were traveling all over the country telling people the Cherokees were going to get money and that they had no records, so for a small fee, the lawyer could get a family some of the money. Of course, the Cherokees had very good records and nearly all of the fraudulent applications were rejected. It is very unusual to find a real Cherokee who had a lawyer file their claim for them, but very common to see a white who was eventually rejected use one. William LD Keith did have a lawyer. He also wrote letters to Guion Miller and it was clear he was in need of money. These things make his application very suspect and not a good source to use for claims of Cherokee ancestry.

Also, the births of the children the family claims were those of Crane Eater were not born in Cherokee Nation, but instead, on land ceded to the United States by the Creek Indians. The evidence we have seen says the family didn't move into Cherokee Nation until 1839, after the Cherokees were rounded up and forced to leave.

The Crane Eater I researched had 11 full bloods in his family. William LD Keith claimed his grandfather was full blood, but that his grandmother was white. This would make all the children mixed bloods and the grandmother an intermarried white. This family does not fit the description of the Crane Eater family. Also, the Crane Eater family was living in Cherokee Nation in 1835 while the James Keith family was living in Meriwether, GA at that time, so this appears to be two completely different families who have no connection at all.

We have not found the names of the Keiths on any of the rolls taken of the Cherokees who stayed in the east, but we have learned that one Keith researcher says this James Keith who fathered and grandfathered this family received land in the land lottery. I am in the process of trying to find that information myself since I have not seen it.

Do you have anything other than the claim filed by William L.D. Keith that says James Keith and Crane Eater are the same man? If so, I would be interested in it if you would be willing to share it.

Thank you for your time.
As you can see, I shared our sources and conclusions with Dr. Worth. As of yet, he has not shared his sources with us, though we know his conclusion. I would like to believe a noted archaeologist would have a lot of evidence before stating there was a connection between the  Keith family and Crane Eater. Surely he would base his conclusion on more than a rejected Miller application. But this point, I don't know because he remains silent on the topic. I know he might be a busy man, but his research and writing has come under scrutiny, so I would think he would find it important to clear up the matter. Apparently not. But, I know if it was my research and someone questioned it, you can bet your bottom dollar I would be sharing my sources and research notes to validate my conclusions. So why isn't he? I don't know, you decide.
 
Those are my thoughts for today. 
Thanks for reading. 

CC 
The Granddaughter 

copyright 2011, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Tuesday, February 15, 2011

When Wannabes Attack (Again)

"I never did give them hell. I just told the truth, and they thought it was hell." - Harry S Truman

Some of you may be aware that I have been the victim of a recent smear campaign by another blogger. I have tried to ignore this but the manipulation of my writings and the outright lies told about me are simply unacceptable. Though I believe sometimes it is best to just ignore people who do these types of things, I also believe we have a right to stand up for ourselves when someone is not being completely honest about us.

This all started over a request for help with Cherokee genealogy. I was simply trying to help someone I thought wanted to learn more, but apparently that was not the case. After one line in their ancestry was determined not to be Cherokee, they asked for another line to be reviewed, and then this led to another. I received 60 personal emails from this person in 6 days. On February 7, I received 22. I did say I would be willing to help this person in anyway I could, but such a large number of emails in one day was a little over the top. I might not have been upset had this person accepted my findings, but there was a constant rehashing of the same thing, over and over.

When my conclusions stayed the same, I was suddenly portrayed as an "attacker" and many of my private communications became public and were used out of context in an effort to misrepresent what I had actually said. I believe this person was intentionally making an effort to harm my reputation and because they have refused to write an apology or retraction of their post, I feel I am left with no choice but to address the issue here. This is a very long post and it is full of actual copies of screen prints, emails, and other communications. (All names have been blacked out or removed because I will not post the real names of anyone on the internet without their permission.) I apologized in advance, but because I always believe in providing documentation for what I present as fact, I feel the need to do it now, just like I would in any of my other posts.

In the blog, The Mashburn Collection, I was portrayed in a negative light in more than one blog post, but the one that is the most bothersome is titled, "Where's the Rain Dance When Things Need to Be Cooled." We are all free thinkers and I am not going to try to tell you what to believe or not to believe in this situation. You are free to read the communications and decide for yourself.

Inaccuracy #1 -
This person was never referred to me, nor I her. She had contacted my very good friend, David Cornsilk, who had more pressing things to work on, so he then asked me if I would look something up for him. She never knew I was the person working on this until AFTER I emailed her.


I love Cherokee research, so of course I was happy to look up this man. After doing my review of the Miller application, I thought I would do a quick Google search because you never know what you might find. That is when I found the blog, The Mashburn Collection, and saw the post about William Loranzo Dow Keith's Miller application posted there. I left a quick comment and went about my research.
I sent David what I found and he later told me the woman the research was for was happy to have the accurate information and she probably would not be one of those people who keep perpetuating family myths. Later, I stopped back by to read the blog again and see if a reply had been posted to my comment and I saw the page had been updated and then I realized my research had been for the person who wrote the blog. Excited that she seemed to be a genealogist only interested in the truth and not myth, I sent her a message through her "Contact Me" section.

She soon replied with the following message.


We continued to exchange emails and that is how this nightmare of an experience started for me.

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Inaccuracy #2 -
This is absolutely NOT true. The very night I started the research, I finished it, and I posted my findings to my blog. I never notified her of my findings because my research was not for her, but my own work that had started from a request for my friend. This was not paid research and I had no obligation to tell her anything about it, but I did thinking it might be helpful to her. Though her writing makes it look like I was specifically doing research for her and she was not aware I would be posting my findings to my blog, I assure you, she was well aware that I would be posting my research. As shown in the emails below, she knew about it BEFORE I published it.

Her response to this message follows -

When I finished the post, I notified her with a link. I even pointed out there was something a bit upsetting in what I found.

She responded with -

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Inaccuracy #3 -
This seems rather harmless, unless you click on the link. There you will find this

I have NO idea where a comment like this would come from, but I NEVER said any thing even remotely close to this. I am appalled someone would suggest I would want them to cut their fingers off with a chainsaw and worse! It is absolutely uncalled for to make such accusations about me.

Notice on this page, though, these additional comments are found that seem very contradictory to some comments found in the post that is most bothersome.

*****
Inaccuracy #4 -
I have no idea why I am accused of being "angrier". As you can see in the emails below, I was not angry, but instead just answered a question she had about the work in question.





Once again, nothing angry about it. I just answered a question.

*****
Inaccuracy #5 -
Absolutely NOT true. My communication with the tree owner -

And, per the message below, you can see my comment was misrepresented by only using a portion of it instead of it's entirety.

I never mentioned the name of the person attacking me until the other person mentioned it first. This was in reference to this typewritten paper. It is not an official document and certainly not a primary source. See paragraph three for the information I sent a correction about.

Even in this email to me, she says this is "Obviously, it is in error." (Note she also asks me to do MORE research for her.)


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Inaccuracy #6 -

Have you noticed a pattern here? This woman gets a lot of angry emails, doesn't she? First, when she posted about Crane Eater, she tells me she received a lot of angry emails. I even told her I was sorry that happened to her. Now, she is claiming to have gotten angry emails from me. I would like to see these angry emails she was fielding for days.

Her email to me - As you can see, she is a little "testy" here. And she says, "Our history, even though you object to it, is just that...our history and heritage. Documents we have are part of that heritage. They might have incorrect information, but it doesn't make them any less valuable. It's our responsibility to report the history, not try to change it." (Uh, no comment.)


My reply - as you can see, is not just an angry email, but a response to a message she sent me but didn't let you know about. She is accusing me of doing things I did not do and then suggests I be kinder and gentler. Excuse me?

My comments about inaccurate information are in response to her stating, "Documents we have are part of that heritage. They might have incorrect information, but it doesn't make them any less valuable."


Her family labeled by Guion Miller in a group as filing fraudulent applications was the Hillhouse family. Her Becks tie in with them and they were grouped together and rejected.

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Inaccuracy #7 -

She did not simply say, "Testy are we?" but -

And my response, is included in full in here. Notice she only used the part that served her purpose of making me "look angry."

*****

Inaccuracy #8 -
No, this was not what she did. She sent this email and then blocked me so I could not respond to it.


(Pay close attention to that message. Truly, every wannabe I have ever dealt with says something nearly exactly like that right before they stop communication.)

*****

Inaccuracy #9 -
I believe this is what she is referring to as "another angry post". Angry, no. Disappointed? Yes. Both David C. and I thought this person was not going to fall into the wannabe trap, but unfortunately we were wrong. I guess providing more information that her family was not Cherokee was viewed by her as "angry."

And the post on my blog that she quoted here actually had nothing to do with her. I have talked to my friends about this for a long time and over a year ago, I mentioned the steps a wannabe goes through to another wannabe -

I write about wannabes all the time. If I don't say the word "wannabe" at least once a day, anyone who knows me would think I was sick. Search my blog and see how many times the word "wannabe" comes up. It is a topic I write on a lot. Honestly, do people believe I have nothing better to do than sit around and write about them all day?

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In closing she adds the following comments -

Uh, yeah, whatever. I think the post she wrote shows she obviously has an agenda or she would not be repeatedly quoting me out of context and fabricating things that never happened. There are more emails. Like I said, she sent me 60 in 6 days. It would have been impossible to post them all here, but I did want to defend myself against her most harsh accusations. Nothing I have done is frightening, but her post about me is obviously lashing out. For what other reason would she post such misleading comments?

And, maybe some people see using the word "wannabe" as name calling. If they do, so be it. But you know what? If the shoe fits............


This comment has absolutely nothing to do with anything that was discussed in her blog post. Having a step son who gets Indian blood through his biological mother has absolutely nothing to do with her or her ancestry.

Talking about uncalled for comments. This is about one of the most insulting and stereotypical sentences I have seen in a long time. It absolutely has NO place in a discussion about Indians.

Once again, I am sorry this post is so long, but I think it is important for my readers to see the actual emails and other communications in this situation so they can see how wannabes attack real Indians when they don't get their way. It is quite shocking and unbelievable, isn't it?

And, the blogger who is attacking me just doesn't get it. She thinks I am upset because of what her ancestors did to mine a long time ago, when instead, this is really about what she is doing to me now. And isn't it ironic that she says she wants to be a better ancestor to her descendants than her ancestors were to her, yet she is doing the very same thing they did...

Honestly, after everything else she has done to me, I have to say it again. Why doesn't she just spit in my face?

Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.

CC
The Granddaughter

Update - The blogger who has launched this attack repeatedly changes her blog and all the posts. The above post I refer to has been changed numerous times. I did have the sense to make screen prints showing it as it stood at the time this blog post was published. Should anyone doubt what is stated above, feel free to contact me for copies of her original blog post.

Originally posted 15 Feb 2011.

Also see On the Trail of the Trail

And we think this isn't a Wannabe attacking me? What self respecting, person seeking the truth would allow such a comment to be posted to their blog? It is obviously lies and something written by a mentally ill person, but that wannabe has such anger against me for telling the truth, she wants to try to make me look bad. Classy, isn't it? But, it does make for a good example of how wannabes attack.

copyright 2011, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Thursday, February 10, 2011

Dissecting a Family Myth - Keith Family Part 2

Just a quick post to share some additional information that has turned up in the case of the Keith family.

Though some descendants still seem to want to hang on to that last shred of hope that James Keith and Crane Eater were the same man, it is just not supported by the evidence.

In 1835, Crane Eater was living in the Cherokee Nation. He had 11 full bloods in his family, no whites and no mixed bloods. (United States official census of the Cherokee Nation, 1835)

In 1835, James Keith was living in Meriwether, Georgia, outside the Cherokee Nation on land that was ceded by the Creeks. (Obituary for James' daughter, Cynthia) According to James Keith's grandson, William Loranzo Dow Keith, James was a full blood who was married to a white woman. This would have made their children mixed bloods.

Also, the Cherokees who stayed in the East were found on various rolls (Chapman, Siler, etc...) None of the Keith family were found on these rolls, but were found on the United States censuses as white. In 1860, the instructions for enumerators were "5. Indians.-- Indians not taxed are not to be enumerated. The families of Indians who have renounced tribal rule, and who under State or Territorial laws exercise the rights of citizens, are to be enumerated. In all such cases write "Ind." opposite their names, in column 6, under heading "Color." " And, "9. Color.-- Under heading 6, entitled "Color," in all cases where the person is white leave the space blank; in all cases where the person is black without admixture insert the letter "B;"if a mulatto, or of mixed blood, write "M;"if an Indian, write "Ind." It is very desirable to have these directions carefully observed."

The Keith family is found with the color space left blank. The only logical conclusion is they were white and were not known as or accepted as Indian, no matter what William Loranzo Dow Keith said in his sworn testimony.

Also, there is a James Keith listed here (number 53) as receiving a land grant in the Georgia Land Lottery. Still researching this to connect the James Keith family to the James on this list. If it proves to be him, I don't see how the descendants can continue to carry on believing their ancestor was Cherokee since Indians did not receive land grants.

The fact, in light of all of the evidence that shows James Keith and Crane Eater were two completely different people, at least one descendant of the Keith family still clings to hope that this family proves to be Cherokee. They became condescending and rude when they read my original Keith family blog post and didn't see the story they wanted. They have continuously posted lies about me and attempted to make me look bad in any way they can. They have emailed the followers of my blog spreading untruths and they even went so far as to suggest people report me to the APG for being unethical. I am not even a member of the APG! Frustrating? Yes. Surprising? No. It is typical behavior for a person when their family myth is shattered and their ancestor turns out to be someone completely different than they hoped -- non-Cherokee.

Anyway........if nothing else, it is a perfect example of the difference between a person searching for the truth in their ancestry and a wannabe. Those searching find the truth and move on whether they are Cherokee descendants or not. Wannabes never give up the search, no matter what the evidence says, and they resort to lies and attacks in their attempt to discredit a person who reveals the truth. It is quite sad and pathetic, actually.

Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.

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