Showing posts with label Tadpole. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Tadpole. Show all posts

Tuesday, November 18, 2014

Tiger Tadpole Dies

I heard so many stories about Tiger Tadpole during my childhood, I actually thought he was still alive, even though he died 30 years before I was born. He was my grandpa's grand uncle and very influential in my grandpa's life.

From the Joplin Globe; Joplin, Missouri; July 1, 1939; p2.


Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.





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Wednesday, January 2, 2013

Tracing back to Sally Hughes

Now that I have shown the Mhoons have no documentation or evidence to support their claim that they descend from the Cherokee Sally Hughes, I will show the documentation and evidence I have that says I do descend from Sally.

Working backwards, which is the standard way genealogy is done, means I start with myself. Because both my mother and I are living, and because we have proved our ancestry linked back to Dawes in accordance with Cherokee law, I will start with my grandpa, who has passed away, and his parents who were both original Dawes enrollees.

My maternal grandpa was Aaron Carey.

He was the son of Dick Carey and Nancy Fisher. Nancy descended through Sally Hughes so her ancestry is the one I will show.

Per the birth affidavit in Dawes application #5126, Nancy was the daughter of Johnson Fisher and Darkie Tadpole. (Notice the midwife who attended Darkie was Polly Tadpole, her mother.)

In that same application, Darkie's parents are listed as Dave and Polly Tadpole. (Also notice Darkie's  number from the 1880 Census of the Cherokee Nation.)

Darkie died prior to the date of the final roll, therefore was not enrolled, but her husband and daughters were.

Darkie was found on both the 1880 and 1890 Cherokee Nation censuses with her parents.
1880 Cooweescoowee Dist
#2973 David Tadpole, Native Cherokee, 41
#2974 Mollie Tadpole, NCher, 43 (The name difference is settled below.)
#2975 Tiger Tadpole, NCher, 14
#2976 Darkie Tadpole, NCher, 10 (Matches the 1880 number in the above document.)
#2977 Rosie Tadpole, NCher, 8
1890 Cooweescoowee Dist
David Tadpole, NCher, 52
Polly Tadpole, NCher, 54
Darkey Tadpole, NCher, 20
Rose Tadpole, NCher, 18

Polly Tadpole, mother of Darkie, was still living at the time of the Dawes Roll and the Guion Miller Roll. Per Dawes application #2461, where the information was translated from her to the commission by an interpreter since she didn't speak English, her parents were Ave and Betsy Vann. She was also asked if her name was Mollie or Polly. She said Polly. (Also notice her number from the 1880 Census of the Cherokee Nation. It matches the number above.)

Per Eastern Cherokee Application #8972, Polly Tadpole said her parents were Ave Vann and Betsy Vann nee Scott. She did not know the names of her paternal grandparents.

Per the card at the front of the Eastern Cherokee application for Polly, a notation was made that she was admitted and that she was enrolled in 1851, Tahl #569 as Oo-te-ee Vann.

That means we can look at the 1851 Drennen Roll and find her listed with her family. (Notice the name David Vann on the second page has the number 2183 beside it!)

The number 2183 references an Eastern Cherokee application for Polly Tadpole's brother, David Vann, so I checked his application to see if he listed his paternal grandparents. He said his paternal grandfather was Claw-see Vann.

Also, this page from David Vann's Eastern Cherokee application makes reference to his being listed on the Drennen Roll, Tahl #569, and claiming through Ave Vann on both the 1851 Drennen Roll and the 1835 Roll.

George Pumpkin/Pumpkinpile was still alive at the time of the Guion Miller Roll and filed an Eastern Cherokee application. Because he married into another line of my family, I had already done extensive research on him, and knew he listed his maternal grandfather's Cherokee name as "Claw-sene" and English name as James Vann. I checked his application #2804 to to see if he connected with Polly Tadpole and David Vann who filed the applications above. Notice on the second page, George listed Ave Vann as one of the children of his grandparents, thus, his uncle. He was a first cousin to Polly and David.

Now that I have verified the names of Polly Vann Tadpole's, father, Ave Vann, and his father, James "Claw-see" or "Claw-sene" Vann, I can look for them in 1835.

From the Cherokee Census of 1835, transcribed by James W. Tyner, better known as "Those Who Cried, the 16,000", I find Ave Vann listed as Dave Vann living on the Oostenolee River. (Make note of "No farm. One farmer.")
Dave Vann Two fullbloods and one quarterblood. No farm. One farmer. One weaver and one spinner.
He is living next to his father-in-law, Dick Scott, and near Alexander Brown, John Ridge, Watie, Major Ridge and Charley Moore. (It is important to know these men lived near this Ave Vann later.)

From the Cherokee Census of 1835, transcribed by the Trail of Tears Association, Ave Vann is living at Floyd County, Amuchy Creek, Oostenalla River. (Make note of "No farms or acreage in cultivation." and "1 farmer over 18 years.")
Ave Vann - 1 male under 18 years, 1 male over 18 years, 0 females under 16 years, 1 female over 16 years, total Cherokee 3. No slaves. No whites connected by marriage. No farms or acreage in cultivation, 3 houses. 1 farmer over 18 years. 0 Halfbloods, 1 Quadroon, 2 Full bloods. 1 weaver and 1 spinner.
He is living next to his father-in-law, Dick Scott, and near the same men listed above.

My James or Claw-sene Vann is not found in 1835 so it would make one wonder if he died before then.

Looking for claims filed by Ave Vann led me to:
Record Group 75 - Records of the BIA
Entry 236 - Miscellaneous Claims Papers of the 1st Board of Cherokee Commissioners
Folder of Ave Van
Ave Vann filed a claim, February 1, 1837, for two small fields that were included in Sally Hughes' valuation; one field about 6 acres and the other 4 acres.

The claim included testimony by Charles Moore where he said Ave Vann was the son of James Vann, who was the son of Sally Hughes.
The statement of Cherokee Charles Moore in reference to the above - Says that the father of Ave Vann owned a small field of about six acres which he cultivated three years - and when his mother, Sally Hughes, she occupied it, and it is said has been valued to her. The father of Ave Vann's name was James Vann, son of Sally Hughes. [emphasis mine] Moore further says that Ave had a-bout four acres of land that he cleaned himself and cultivated - He frequently saw him at work - that also he understands has been valued to Sally Hughes as part of her improvements.
Sworn to  & subscribed                         Charles (his mark) Moore
before me 1 Feb. 1837
Jno Ridge (illegible)



There is additional testimony from Elijah Moore that said Ave Vann was the grandson of Sally Hughes and the son of James Vann.
I hereby certify that the Ave Vann claimed two small fields that were considered as part of the improv-ments of Sally Hughes. Ave Vann is the grandson of Sally Hughes, [emphasis mine] I was residing with her when he cleaned one of the fields - The other belonged to his father James Vann. [emphasis mine]                             
Sworn to & subscribed          
before me this 1st Feb. 1837.      Elijah Moore
Jno Ridge (illegible)

Do you see it coming together? It was that easy to connect myself, with supporting documentation, to my great great great great great great Cherokee grandmother, Sally Hughes. Did you get that? She is my 6th great grandmother. She is Cherokee. There are records.

My line is as follows:

Me 
My mom, daughter of 
Aaron Carey, son of 
Nancy Fisher, daughter of 
Darkie Tadpole, daughter of 
Polly Vann, daughter of 
Ave Vann, son of 
James Vann, son of 
Sally Hughes

And people say it is hard to prove Cherokee ancestry. Ha! Not true. Despite the fact most of these people didn't speak English; despite the fact these people were Indians; despite the fact Darkie Tadpole died young; despite the fact Polly Tadpole did not know the names of her paternal grandparents; despite the fact James "Claw-sene" Vann was not found in 1835; and despite the fact Sally Hughes was born about 1777-1780, over 57 years before the Trail of Tears, we can still trace this line WITH supporting documentation. And guess what? There's more!

Stay tuned for the next installment in this series about Sally Hughes!

Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.








**Unless otherwise stated, all documents were obtained from Fold3.com.

copyright 2013, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Monday, May 28, 2012

Remembering Cherokees Who Have Served - 2012a


  Corporal Hiawatha Tuggle

 1921 - 1943
Son of Hugh and Elizabeth Fisher Tuggle. 
Chilocco Indian School Class of 1940
180 Infantry Oklahoma
Killed in Action - WWII

Aaron Carey, my grandpa

1922 - 2002
Son of Dick and Nancy Fisher Carey.
Pvt - US Army - WWII
612th Tank Battalion 
Prisoner of War 
Bronze Star Medal

Mike Carey

1921 - 1971
Son of Dick and Nancy Fisher Carey.
Pvt - US Army - WWII

John Fisher Carey

1934 - 1978
Son of Dick and Nancy Fisher Carey.
US Marine Corps - Korea

Johnson Fisher Sr.

1844 - 1885
Son of Fisher Hatchet/Chopper and unknown wife.
3rd Regiment - Indian Home Guard
US Civil War - Union

David Tadpole, Jr.

1839 - 1900
Son of David Tadpole, Sr. and Elizabeth Downing.
3rd Regiment - Indian Home Guard
US Civil War - Union
  

Johnnie Martin Blanket

1941 - 2007
Son of Bill and Carrie Pumpkin Blanket.
Graduate Chilocco Indian School
Sgt - US Marine Corps - Vietnam
Purple Heart

George Pumpkin

1839 - Unknown
Son of Pumpkinpile.
3rd Regiment - Indian Home Guard
US Civil War - Union

Rev. Charley Carey

1919 - 2008
Son of Silas and Annie Cochran Carey.
WWII

Swimmer Rabbit

1921 - 1990
Son of William and Ella Swimmer Rabbit (Sullateskee)
PFC - US Army - WWII

PFC Mose Carey

1922 - 1945
Son of Mr. and Mrs. Dude Carey
DOW - US Army - WWII
Enlisted into service November 14, 1942.
Wounded by artillery fire on April 14, 1945, on Hill 903,
in the battle against the Germans at Torre Iussi, Italy.

Robert L. Carroll

1926 - 2003
Son of Robert E. and Flossie Pitts Carroll
Pvt - US Army - WWII

Richard S. Snell

Son of Rachel and Alexander Snell.
US Army - WWII

 Bert Johnson Jr.

US Army

Levi Gritts Sr.

1923 - 2001
Son of Charles and Ollie Terrapin Gritts
US Navy - WWII - Korea

Jesse Swimmer

US Army - WWII

Thomas Snell

Son of Richard Sherman Snell and Alline Snell Bushyhead
US Navy - Korea

Charles W. Flint Jr.

Son of Pauline G. Kelly
US Army - WWII
65th Infantry Field Artillery

Donald Ray Carey

1930 - 1993
Son of Dick and Nancy Fisher Carey.
US Army - Korea

Bert Homer Johnson

Cpl - US Marine Corps
 

PFC Joe Tuggle

1922 - 1942
Son of Hugh and Elizabeth Fisher Tuggle.
PFC - US Army - WWII
120 Medical Regt Co B

Buddy Dean Vance

1938 - 1984
US Marine Corps - Korea

Dull Ho Downing

Unknown - 1863
Died in Service
3rd Regiment - Indian Home Guard
US Civil War - Union

Lewis Hawkins

Son of Tuwodi and Waleh
1st Cherokee Mounted Rifle Company I
US Civil War

Mike Carey 

Abt 1841 - 1901
Son of Dick and Kate Carey.
 3rd Regiment - Indian Home Guard
US Civil War - Union

Lewis Tabb

1st Cherokee Mounted Rifle Company K
US Civil War

Fisher Hatchet/Chopper

Died in Service
Indian Home Guard
US Civil War - Union

Askwater Ummerteskee

Son of Yonahquah and Polly
Indian Home Guard
US Civil War - Union

Eli Tadpole

Son of David Tadpole Sr. and Elizabeth Downing.
Died in Service
2nd Indian Home Guard
US Civil War - Union



copyright 2012, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Thursday, January 19, 2012

Thriller Thursday - Conclusion to the Groundhog Murder Trial


Source - The Cherokee Advocate; Tahlequah, Oklahoma; September 19, 1884. 

So, there we have it. Apparently, Groundhog was convicted of the murder of John Moore and sentenced to death, but then later received a reprieve and was set free.

Is this the same Groundhog who was the stepson of  my third great grandfather, Dave Tadpole? I still don't know, but I am continuing to research and will post updates as I learn more.

copyright 2012, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Thursday, January 5, 2012

Thriller Thursday - Groundhog Trial Continued



Source - The Cherokee Advocate; Cherokee Nation, Indian Territory; Friday, June 20, 1884.


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Monday, January 2, 2012

Matrilineal Monday - Polly's Granddaughters (Part 1)


Some of Polly's (other) granddaughters from the Tadpole, Pumpkin and Tuggle families.

Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.




copyright 2012, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Thursday, November 17, 2011

Thriller Thursday - "Whiskey - Pistol - Death"


The following article appeared in The Cherokee Advocate; Cherokee Nation, Indian Territory; Friday, May 23, 1884; p.2. Wow! David Tadpole was my 3X great grandpa. Though apparently badly wounded, he did survive and lived another 16-17 years. An interesting note though, he had a stepson named Groundhog. Was he shot by his own stepson? It might take some digging, but I am going to try to find out. To make matters even more interesting is the fact John Moore is connected to me through another of my Cherokee lines. He was married to my 4X great grandma's sister.

Stay tuned for some interesting follow ups and for the trial of Groundhog, the man who killed John Moore and shot my great great great grandpa!
 

Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.

The Granddaughter
copyright 2011, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Thursday, September 1, 2011

What A Privilege! Sneak Peek at Private Collection!

A couple of days ago, I had the privilege of viewing a couple of pages from some ledgers that are part of a private family collection. The representative I spoke with about them found my family listed and said it is a huge find because their names were listed in the original members of the Keetoowah Church. Below, you find the name of my ancestor this blog is named after. It is from a page dated 1906.


These ledgers belonged to a full blood Cherokee man who was secretary of the Nighthawks when Redbird Smith was leading them. Undoubtedly, these ledgers, for Cherokee treasures and historical information, will rank in the same category as the work by Emmit Starr, but are probably more valuable because not only do they contain some family groups, in some sections, they list people by name in Cherokee and English along with age. It is important to note that not all Cherokee families will be found in the ledgers. Since these are records of the Keetoowah Society, only those who had association with them will be found.

These ledgers are not for public viewing at this time and I don't know if they will ever be. I believe there is a plan in the works for them to tour the three federally recognized Cherokee governments and some highly respected U.S. national museums, but I am pretty sure they will not be available for research purposes to the average person because their value is so great, there is no way to put a price on them. Maybe some day, parts of them will be available by transcription, but who knows for sure. All I know is I feel extremely privileged to have been allowed a glimpse of these Cherokee treasures. Thank you, my friend!


Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.

The Granddaughter

**Note - Out of respect for privacy of the person and family who shared information with me about these ledgers and also allowed me to see a little of them, I am not publishing their name. I would like to remind everyone, these are part of a PRIVATE collection, so we must be respectful of that.**
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Monday, March 21, 2011

Mappy Monday - A Family Cemetery

The cemetery that is closest to my heart is the Fisher Cemetery in Wagoner County, Oklahoma. It has primarily been my mother's family cemetery since the mid 1800s and holds many of my Cherokee ancestors. I am related to a large percentage of the people buried there by either blood or marriage. I also have many direct ancestors buried there.

The cemetery was originally on the allotment land of my gg grand uncle, Moses Fisher. The cemetery was moved by the Corps of Engineers when the Fort Gibson dam was constructed.

Below are some pictures from Google Earth and Google Maps of the Fisher Cemetery. In the last picture, I have labeled where my direct ancestors are buried.

 
 



Ancestors and family buried in the above labeled areas -

Black - My great grandpa, Dick Carey, and his wife, my great grandma, Nancy Fisher Carey, along with several of their sons, Donald Ray, John F., Reed, and Millard (Monkey).

Red - My ggg grandparents, Dave Tadpole and his wife, Polly Vann Tadpole, as well as their daughter and my gg grandma, Darkie Tadpole Fisher. Their children Tiger Tadpole and Rose Tadpole Swimmer are also buried in this area as well as some of the daughters of Tiger.

Green - My gggg grandma, Peggie Dennis Pumpkin and her husband, George Pumpkin, as well as Peggie's sister, Annie Dennis Elliot.

Blue - My ggg grandparents, Johnson Fisher (Sr) and his wife, my ggg grandma, Sarah Woodward Fisher. Three of their children are also buried in this area - Daisy, Ben and Charlie Fisher, who all died as infants or toddlers.

Though I am related to many many more of the people buried in the Fisher Cemetery, it would be impossible to label and list them all in such a small picture. Hopefully this will give family looking for the final resting places of some of our ancestors an better idea where to look in the cemetery for those graves.
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Tuesday, March 15, 2011

Fearless Females - A 6 Word Tribute to Darkie Tadpole Fisher

"Died too young, but never forgotten."


Darkie Tadpole was the second child of David Tadpole Jr. and Polly Vann, citizens of the Cherokee Nation. She was born about 1870 in Indian Territory. As an adult, she married Johnson Fisher Jr. and they had two daughters, Elizabeth (Lizzie) and Nancy. Darkie was included on the application her family made during the Dawes enrollment period, but sadly, she died in childbirth before the Final Roll. She was only 32 at the time of her death.



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Thursday, February 24, 2011

Treasure Chest Thursday - Uncle Tiger's Homestead Deed

I am not sure anyone but a Cherokee can appreciate the sentimental value this old piece of paper has for a family. It dates back to the time of the Cherokee allotment when the nation's assets were being divided among it's citizens. In my opinion, as a Cherokee historian and researcher, the old papers associated with the allotment period are some of the most sentimentally valuable documents one could hope to have. Though I have a few others, today, I am sharing the homestead deed of Tiger Tadpole.






We know Tiger had a great respect and love of the land so I can only imagine what these papers must have meant to him. To know he held this document in his hand and that I too, over a hundred years later, held the very same document, well, words just can't explain the sentiment I feel. This old piece of paper might be viewed as trash to some, but to me, it is a priceless treasure. It is one of the links from the past to the present, one of the "stones" that builds the bridge from me to my ancestors and there is no dollar amount you can put on something like that.

Rest in peace, Tiger. You are not forgotten.


Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.

CC
The Granddaughter

copyright 2011, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB